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They got original common vinyl by big Names, ie Beatles, Stones, Billy Fury etc and scanned up real demo labels from other less valuable records. This is the big giveaway: The B Millionaire matchmaking houston were left blank making creating a fake one easy. From the photo, it's glued on for sure, so no chance in a million it's real, though the vinyl is going to Vinyl record dating. Until other fakes turn up or they show it to someone who knows the deal.

The fact the label is Typewriiten or Handwritten is no clue at all to tell if a Test Press or Acetate is genuine. Faked Demo labels we've seen with Typewritten labels, but think how easy it is to buy a Typewriter, there are tons of them around. The reggae label 'Fab' in about is found with similar type labels stuck over the dark blue labels. The real ones even look very dodgy, but again experience will pick the real from the fake. Fakes are only on Money items though, remember that rule. UK vinyl to us is easy to spot a fake, USA vinyl for the huge variations in even the 5 Elvis 'Sun' 45s is a lot harder.

As ofsadly these obvious Fake Demos are easily found, with many big name artists getting these done, but at least the typeface is wrong. Barcodes were never used before on records. Modern ss Jamaican pressings of classic Studio One tracks look aged as they are poorly pressed on old equipment. The 'noise' on these repressings is actually from using the corroded copper plates raw, rather than preparing them first. The vinyl itself is not the noisy part, the noise is gaps in the record surface the verdigris green copper rust that the humidity creates on the copper. The amount of later Reggae Jamaican pressings being stated to be original is alarming!

Nearly any pre record with 'Version' or 'Dub' on the B side will not be a s original, these started in with Studio One. Early 'Versions' as found on UK issues are usually titled longer names to hide their 'Version' status, or instrumental mix as they are to non-reggaeites. For example, the Billy Fury 10" LP was originally a LP, a thick slab of vinyl, but it was reissued in on a thinner pressing but official product so quality is good. Many will think their 31 years old one if not so new looking is real.

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But the has 'LFT' as the catalog number and Vjnyl matrix numbers. The original has 'LF' and is machine stamped. Then Elvis 10" LPs were repressed in France as sort of bootlegs too: These were sold shrinkwrapped, possibly with a Collector Issue note on it from what datiing remember seing them sold as new on markets. Again, only Money items are faked. Buying on ebay is not safe for the Artifact Buyer who doesn't know enough about Vinyl. There are Fakes in datinf area of Collecting where Money Items are involved. Early 50s RCA promos had handwritten matrixes whist the issues had stamped ones.

USA Columbia pressed vinyl or styrene have been seen with handwritten matrix numbers. Er, what is a Matrix Number? All well us saying these things, but what is a Matrix Number? The term used for this space that has a spiral groove to activate an autochanger is 'Dead Wax' from the days of early 78s, or 'Run Out Area' for other folks. The number Vimyl in the vinyl is "7XCE N". If a Decca pressing has "BH" in one line it is rscord 18th one, if it has "B" with "H" below, ignore the H and it's the 1st. Matrix numbers are generally unimportant despite the Vonyl BS hype, but they can be useful for research. Serrated Edge to the Label Similarly the presence of dqting doesn't always mean the same either!

From Recoord to flimsy Cating turntables, the autochanger was rife. For this reason, HMV Elvis unless Vinyl record dating played have the serrated bit worn through to the white base paper from repeated playing. Several other countries adopted the serrated edge, from Singapore and Holland to India. Made In Great Britain The presence of this or not is no clue to originality as many UK pressings are only recognisable as UK pressings by other features as often no country is Dating in maryland. Non UK pressed repros can still copy this text making confusion.

Xating early 50s EPs came without lamination, only to have later issues laminated. Lamination is a thin rdcord of plastic film attached permanently to usually only the front of a record sleeve to protect it. See all the paper tears top right corner from careless sticker removal! Some earlier unlaminated UK ones had an odd varnish type covering, meaning if you remove dry tape marks with meths, off comes the printing too! Flipback Sleeves This one relates to LPs mainly. Some LPs had a flap of paper from the front part of the cover bent over to glue to the back part creating a neat Vinyo.

These are called flipback sleeves. The Decca pressed ones to about had a curved section cut out, to datinh the shape of the vinyl put in the cover. After that it was just a plain strip. A LP with no flipback can be seen reclrd be a or later reocrd, in those days some LPs stayed available for several years. The press would have a subtly different label and pressing moulding. The fact it was sold in the UK means it's not a proper Export, only those rscord alternate catalog numbers or different B sides are proper exports. Cliff's "Gee Whizz It's You" was an export issue, as the catalog number shows, but it was also sold in the UK as it made the Vinyo 10, despite not being an official UK release.

Oriole had some solid centres in as regular stock copies, nothing special. Datjng Contracts of Beatles on Parlophone exist but these are likely just test pressings only different by being solid centre. Pye similarly done solid centres occasionally from with the earliest Lonnie Donegan "Dustman" fromagain nothing special. Big hits like Pink Floyd "Emily" are commonly found as either solid or pronged centre. Decca is the oddity here though. The Tri centre continued until March if Round centres started September Round centres with 4 prongs are standard Decca style until when Polygran bought Decca.

Every single Decca pressed 45 has a 4 prong centre. But there are Solid Centre Pressings "made" from to at least These are actually "reject copies" with rough edges trimmed with scissors, a centre hole but no centre shape for Tri or Round. Decca used a triangle centre from to EMI used round centres onwards, after the few early large centre issues see other pages of ours. All other labels used a 3-prong or 4-prong round centre that could be removed for jukeboxes or the early USA record players. There are also the "jigsaw" removable-replaceable centres too, see another page of ours - '50s Odd Centres'. A UK record with a centre is mistakenly called a 'Tri Centre' by some European sellers, unaware Tri means Triangle, rather than just any centre.

Then put an adaptor in instead. USA record with a solid centre maybe viewed with suspicion, as the general style of centre is the large jukebox middle. Cutting out the area to make the centre a push-out one appears to be very expensive, so bootleggers don't bother. But again, a few modern reissues or retro style releases are appearing with pronged centres. Sound Quality of a proper released record will be of some hifi quality. If it is boomy with little crispness like USA bootlegs of 50s music in the 70s taken from 78s, that's a big giveaway. Today vinyl repros get the noise digitally reduced. Mastering records listening through 6" speakers is a fool's game.

A lot of the recent UK 60s Bootleg 45s are mastered much lower than the original They are often styrene records, a harder type of vinyl that plays beautifully as regards surface noise on a high grade copy, but it can wear badly. Early Delta numbers turn up on records and on vinyl. Blurred labels are scans or photocopies, though today's printing techniques can be very advanced. Some recreate the typeface in a modern similar font and others add numbers or wording to the original scanned design which helps show the reissue from the real. The Colour of the Paper used can be a good clue too, as can the texture.

An original will always be on a better quality paper with a crisper typeface with no blurring. A very modern repro will still get things wrong: Photocopy paper is dust that is heat bonded and is never used raw. Only the source image is derived from a photo, scan or photocopy. Label Pressed with the Vinyl or Stuck on After? The usual way for a UK 45 to have it's label applied is having it pressed into the vinyl when made. Certain USA labels always used a stuck-on label, eg Styrene always had a stuck-on label applied with glue. Later Styrene pressings had ink printed directly onto the blank label are with no paper. A basic rule is a Vinyl pressed record ignoring acetates will have a pressed-on label.

Exceptions include small-run private type labels, eg the early Blue Horizon. Any Decca sporting a stuck-on Demo label is highly likely to be fake, although again some exceptions regarding test pressings allowed these fakes to get accepted. Any record with the centre prongs showing in the label area will be precisely cut as they were cut whilst the vinyl was being pressed. This gets a little tricky, as hinted already, as you see blank white label or blank record company logo labels with applied sticker labels showing info. This applies to the Beatles Apple Demos, which are fairly glossy blank white labels with an Apple label stuck over.

You can find standard stock copies of a wide range of labels with added Emidisc or similar labels, these are genuine, but the ease of adding such should not make them hugely valuable, more like a nice issue defaced! Another exception as mentioned already, is MGM by it became independently pressed in the UK by EMI still, in plain white sleevesthe Demos here are plain white with basic details printed on the labels, but oddly a more typical pink MGM demo label stuck over! Confusing is the word. Modern Fonts used is a vague one, though see a Sun 45 with a too-modern looking crisp font it's a modern 80s on repro. Modern Soul repros make little attempt to copy the original label.

Overall, experience is what gets you picking original from repro. Beware Fake Factory Sample "Demo" Stickers added to ordinary records, or even old ones added to repro ones! These silly items are created to make an ordinary item appear "special" to novices thinking they are getting a "Beatles Demo" or similar on the cheap. Is it Worth More? Not in The Real World. It's a gummed label like a stamp. It can be used to cover a tear or writing explaining the odd positions you see them "put" in. As ofwe often see very obvious Fake Factory Sample stickers.

Still gullible buyers pay a huge premium for a Factory Sample sticker on certain records. Only a clearly different label design maybe in White with a big A and a Release Date denotes a proper Demo. If you still think it is, then no-one will mind charging you extra! Computer printed "demo" labels stuck onto regular issues and badly cut out around the centre pushout. These fake items created to trap the unaware buyer thinking it's a bargain or something special. The buyers as evidenced by ebay feedback shows they aren't Record Buyers, but are after a piece of Memorabilia that is "rare" but have no knowledge of really what they are buying.

The rule here is it's not worth anything more than a standard copy if it basically looks like a standard copy. Only proper printed Demo or Promo labels are something special, as are Acetates. An oddity is with some Australian promos: Removal or falling-off results in a dip in the vinyl as the sticker was originally level with the rest of the label, rather than raised as a later added one would be. Heavily Cut Record Grooves is another one to look out for. Columbia Record Club becomes the first mail-order outfit for sound recordings.

Much discussion ensues in the national music cataloging arena. LP fails to catch the market, and is withdrawn ca. The sound recordings' cataloging chapter now includes much fuller information. Libraries begin receiving truck-loads of LP gifts from donors replacing their sound recording collections with CDs. Library directors across the country see the need to hire thousands of music catalogers to help provide access to these important materials this last sentence is not as true as it could be. Vinyl sales are small but mighty. The LP is not dead!

sating Because it had such a nice time, it will be making a Vinyp date with you! Bibliography Gaeddert, Barbara Knisely. The Classification and Cataloging of Sound Recordings, Music Library Association, From Edison to Stereo. A Chronology with Pictures and Links. From Inception to Publication. A Manual of Sound Archive Administration. Select Vinyl record dating This is a listing to prompt your memory of what is out there to use, and is not meant to be exhaustive by any means. These sources can be used to zero in on a date of release, but may contain some inaccuracies hint: Discographies are very helpful as long as they provide a date of recording or release, but not all of them do.

You may check the introductions to some of these collections for a chart of matrix numbers with corresponding dates of release and use that as a guide. Generally, web sites now concentrate on CD recordings and tend toward commercialism with the intent to sell you a product, rarely giving much background information, though there are exceptions. Discographies American Music Recordings: A Discography of 20th Century U. A Soviet Russian L. Rock 'n' Roll Through


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